{"id":22534,"date":"2015-11-19T19:48:18","date_gmt":"2015-11-19T19:48:18","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/kedisa.gr\/for-france-an-alliance-against-isis-may-be-easier-said-than-done\/"},"modified":"2026-01-21T22:28:58","modified_gmt":"2026-01-21T22:28:58","slug":"for-france-an-alliance-against-isis-may-be-easier-said-than-done","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/kedisa.gr\/en\/for-france-an-alliance-against-isis-may-be-easier-said-than-done\/","title":{"rendered":"For France, an Alliance Against ISIS May Be Easier Said Than Done"},"content":{"rendered":"<p id=\"story-continues-1\" class=\"story-body-text story-content\" data-para-count=\"304\" data-total-count=\"304\">PARIS \u2014 By attacking civilian targets well beyond its territory, the Islamic State has seemingly accomplished what diplomats had failed to do. Suddenly, the international order has been scrambled, drawing the United States, Russia and France together in a possible alliance against the terrorist group.<\/p>\n<p id=\"story-continues-2\" class=\"story-body-text story-content\" data-para-count=\"345\" data-total-count=\"649\">Each of the three longtime powers now has its own reasons for wanting to destroy the Islamic State after the pitiless attacks on civilians in Paris and the downing of a Russian passenger jet carrying vacationers. President Obama has provided intelligence to facilitate French airstrikes and suggested he was open to more cooperation with Russia.<\/p>\n<p id=\"story-continues-3\" class=\"story-body-text story-content\" data-para-count=\"405\" data-total-count=\"1054\">But so far, that alliance remains largely theoretical. Even as President Fran\u00e7ois Hollande of France takes on the role of bridge builder with back-to-back trips next week to Washington and Moscow, powerful centrifugal forces are still pulling the would-be partners apart as competing national interests challenge efforts to translate that newly shared aspiration into a sustained collaboration over time.<\/p>\n<p id=\"story-continues-4\" class=\"story-body-text story-content\" data-para-count=\"415\" data-total-count=\"1469\">Mr. Obama and President Vladimir V. Putin harbor fundamental disagreements over a host of issues that have not been dissolved by the Paris attacks. Dividing them are the Russian annexation of Crimea and its meddling in eastern Ukraine, Moscow\u2019s efforts to demonize Washington and undermine confidence in NATO\u2019s commitment to collective defense, and the Kremlin\u2019s support of President Bashar al-Assad of Syria.<\/p>\n<p class=\"story-body-text story-content\" data-para-count=\"457\" data-total-count=\"1926\">\u201cIt\u2019s certainly a good thing for us and a good thing for France if we have a more coordinated approach toward these airstrikes in Syria,\u201d said Karen Donfried, a former White House adviser to Mr. Obama who is now the president of the German Marshall Fund of the United States. \u201cBut how committed Russia really is about taking on the Islamic State, I don\u2019t think any of us really knows. I remain really skeptical that our interests converge here.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"story-body-text story-content\" data-para-count=\"290\" data-total-count=\"2216\">Strobe Talbott, the president of the Brookings Institution and a former deputy secretary of state, said any real alliance would require a seismic change in the Russians\u2019 approach toward Syria, where they say they are trying to fight terrorism but appear more bent on preserving Mr. Assad.<\/p>\n<p id=\"story-continues-5\" class=\"story-body-text story-content\" data-para-count=\"223\" data-total-count=\"2439\">\u201cMaybe it\u2019s getting through to them,\u201d Mr. Talbott said. \u201cThey keep talking about being part of a solution. But they talk the talk of being part of the solution and they walk the walk of being part of the problem.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"story-body-text story-content\" data-para-count=\"379\" data-total-count=\"2818\">Just how complicated assembling such a coalition would be was underscored Wednesday when French diplomats at the United Nations began discussions with colleagues on the Security Council on a draft measure authorizing force against the Islamic State. The French ambassador, Fran\u00e7ois Delattre, described it as \u201cshort, strong and focused on the fight against our common enemy.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"story-body-text story-content\" data-para-count=\"474\" data-total-count=\"3292\">But just as France prepared to share its measure with council diplomats, Russia floated a proposal of its own, resurrecting a draft resolution that went nowhere earlier this fall because it insisted on cooperating with the government of countries affected by terrorism \u2014 in Syria\u2019s case, with Mr. Assad. Vitaly I. Churkin, the Russian ambassador, said failing to work with the government \u201cis definitely weakening the possibility of a joint fight against terrorists.\u201d<\/p>\n<p id=\"story-continues-6\" class=\"story-body-text story-content\" data-para-count=\"315\" data-total-count=\"3607\">Aides said privately that Mr. Obama was skeptical, but in meetings in Turkey, the Philippines, Austria and Paris over the last few days, he and his secretary of state, John Kerry, have held their reservations and broached the possibility of Russia and the United States working together to defeat the Islamic State.<\/p>\n<p id=\"story-continues-7\" class=\"story-body-text story-content\" data-para-count=\"437\" data-total-count=\"4044\">After meeting with Mr. Putin last weekend in Turkey, Mr. Obama said in Manila on Wednesday that Russia had been \u201ca constructive partner\u201d in talks in Vienna seeking a road map for a cease-fire in the Syrian civil war that has given rise to the Islamic State. But for further cooperation, he said, Mr. Putin must direct less at the Syrian rebels supported by the United States and more at the Islamic State, also known as ISIS or ISIL.<\/p>\n<p class=\"story-body-text story-content\" data-para-count=\"298\" data-total-count=\"4342\">\u201cThe problem has been in their initial military incursion into Syria, they have been more focused on propping up President Assad,\u201d Mr. Obama said. If Mr. Putin \u201cshifts his focus and the focus of his military to what is the principal threat, which is ISIL, then that is what we want to see.\u201d<\/p>\n<p id=\"story-continues-8\" class=\"story-body-text story-content\" data-para-count=\"385\" data-total-count=\"4727\">Mr. Hollande, under enormous pressure at home after the attacks, is trying to take the diplomatic initiative. Sensing a chance for rapprochement, he plans to travel to Washington on Tuesday to meet with Mr. Obama, and then to Moscow to meet with Mr. Putin. Mr. Hollande said on Wednesday that he wants to forge \u201ca large coalition\u201d to act \u201cdecisively\u201d against the Islamic State.<\/p>\n<p class=\"story-body-text story-content\" data-para-count=\"289\" data-total-count=\"5016\">In pursuing such a coalition, Mr. Hollande was careful not to ask the NATO alliance to come to France\u2019s defense under Article 5, which obligates members to aid one another in case of attack. That article has been invoked only once, after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks on the United States.<\/p>\n<p id=\"story-continues-9\" class=\"story-body-text story-content\" data-para-count=\"227\" data-total-count=\"5243\">Given Mr. Obama\u2019s adamant resistance to putting large numbers of American ground forces in Syria or Iraq, a French diplomat said on Wednesday that Paris was unwilling to embarrass Mr. Obama by \u201casking for the impossible.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"story-body-text story-content\" data-para-count=\"332\" data-total-count=\"5943\">Instead, to broaden France\u2019s diplomatic support, Mr. Hollande invoked an unusual article in the Lisbon Treaty governing the European Union. Article 42.7 states that if a member is subject to \u201carmed aggression on its territory\u201d other members have an \u201cobligation of aid and assistance by all the means in their power\u201d consistent with their obligations to NATO.<\/p>\n<p class=\"story-body-text story-content\" data-para-count=\"332\" data-total-count=\"5943\">Asked on Twitter why France invoked the European Union treaty and not the NATO charter, G\u00e9rard Araud, the French ambassador to Washington, wrote that one reason was \u201cthe dialogue with Russia.\u201d The implication was that Russia is hostile toward NATO and therefore invoking the alliance\u2019s aid might be provocative toward Moscow.<\/p>\n<p class=\"story-body-text story-content\" data-para-count=\"303\" data-total-count=\"6246\">The European Union countries voted unanimously to support France, but the treaty does not commit them to military action and intelligence sharing is already well developed. No other European country has been willing to confront Islamic radicalism as the French have, at home and in Mali, Iraq and Syria.<\/p>\n<p class=\"story-body-text story-content\" data-para-count=\"373\" data-total-count=\"6619\">Even Britain, still bruised from its participation in the Iraq invasion of 2003, has not been willing to strike inside Syria. Prime Minister David Cameron has promised to seek approval from Parliament before action in Syria and to proceed only if he has \u201ca clear majority.\u201d The election of Jeremy Corbyn, the new hard-left Labour Party leader, has not made that easier.<\/p>\n<p id=\"story-continues-11\" class=\"story-body-text story-content\" data-para-count=\"366\" data-total-count=\"6985\">The United States, Europe and Russia have had moments since the Cold War when their interests converged. Walter Slocombe, a former under secretary of defense, recalled that the American and Russian militaries worked together in Bosnia and Kosovo. In Bosnia, he said, \u201cit worked out O.K., but that was a different Russia and an almost totally benign environment.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"story-body-text story-content\" data-para-count=\"423\" data-total-count=\"7408\">The Obama administration is suspicious that beyond bolstering Mr. Assad, Russia\u2019s real goal in Syria is taking attention off Ukraine \u2014 in effect, trading the status quo for collaboration in the Middle East. \u201cAre we willing to give up on Ukraine?\u201d asked Ivo H. Daalder, Mr. Obama\u2019s former ambassador to NATO and now president of the Chicago Council on Global Affairs. \u201cI\u2019m worried that we fall in this trap.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"story-body-text story-content\" data-para-count=\"322\" data-total-count=\"7730\">Beyond the United States, Russia and Europe, there are other players in Syria, particularly Turkey, Iran, Iraq and Saudi Arabia. Mr. Kerry has worked to forge a consensus among them. But as Mr. Daalder said, \u201cexcept for France and the United States, at this point no one thinks going after ISIS is the first priority.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"story-body-text story-content\" data-para-count=\"67\" data-total-count=\"7797\" data-node-uid=\"1\">Without that, he said, \u201cI don\u2019t see this as a new coalition.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Source: <a href=\"http:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2015\/11\/19\/world\/europe\/for-france-an-alliance-against-isis-may-be-easier-said-than-done.html?hp&amp;action=click&amp;pgtype=Homepage&amp;clickSource=story-heading&amp;module=a-lede-package-region&amp;region=top-news&amp;WT.nav=top-news\">www.nytimes.com<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>PARIS \u2014 By attacking civilian targets well beyond its territory, the Islamic State has seemingly&hellip;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":12,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"content-type":"","_lmt_disableupdate":"","_lmt_disable":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[1113],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-22534","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-world-news"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/kedisa.gr\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/22534","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/kedisa.gr\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/kedisa.gr\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/kedisa.gr\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/12"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/kedisa.gr\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=22534"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/kedisa.gr\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/22534\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":22535,"href":"https:\/\/kedisa.gr\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/22534\/revisions\/22535"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/kedisa.gr\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=22534"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/kedisa.gr\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=22534"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/kedisa.gr\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=22534"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}